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Lovers vs. Haters: The Transformers Movie (Common Arguments)

1. The Transformers cartoon was a weekly toy commercial, not high art. You can’t expect Citizen Kane here. Why do you care so much about the portrayal of Transformers in film?

The Transformers cartoon was created to help sell toys. Yes. This is true. Congratulations. However, if you ask the writers, Hasbro had little to no involvement in the writing process of the television show. The writers have said they didn’t think of it as writing a toy commercial they were just trying to write interesting stories. In addition, the PREMISE and character bios were fleshed out by a Marvel comic writer Bob Budiansiy-(wiki) . It was nothing more than bios on the backs of the boxes giving alternative names and personalities to each of the characters but the proof is in the pudding. These bios were used as the foundations for both the cartoons and comics and……… these characters and stories are still remembered and revered today.

Granted the ‘84 cartoon often had mistakes, flubs, continuity errors; characters had their weapons appear in their hands out of nowhere upon transforming into robots. Optimus Prime’s trailer disappeared off screen when he Transformed into robot mode. Decepticons would sometimes randomly be standing amongst the Autobots as if it was no big deal etc. But believe it or not some of these mistakes proved to be interesting elements of the story.

animation errors and consequences of being a toy commercial proving beneficial to the mythology:

DevastatorIf Megatron built the Constructicons (Devastator) on Earth (as stated in Heavy Metal War) How is it that later in Megatron was depicted as being created by the Constructicons on Cybertron millions of years ago? Its interesting to note that MANY fans had come to the same conclusion that Megatron was indeed given a body by the constructicons but the constructicons either arrived on Earth badly damaged or in a protoform state so Megatron did indeed build them, giving them bodies while on Earth. (Here’s another example of the explanation (link).)

 

All the characters in the cartoon were mercilessly killed for the sole purpose of making way for a new line of toys in the ‘86 animatedprime eyes movie. However the Death of Optimus Prime was probably the most heart wrenchng scene in the entire Transformers universe for every kid watching it. It turned him into a martyr. It made him so much more of a hero. It made the movie have BALLS! All because they wanted a new line of toys to march in, the writers were given an obstacle to masterfully create a hero around. Incidentally, if Optimus Prime couldn’t emote without a visible mouth, how is it that the death of OP scene in the movie had kids crying in the theater and all the way home forcing parents to complain to Hasbro? Angry Video Game Nerds opinion on the TF:Movie ‘86

So you see we all know of the results of the Transformers being a weekly toy commercial but much of the time we are actually pleased by them!

2. Why do you want to see the same story on screen that you’ve already seen 20 years ago? Do you really want to see the characters portrayed as boxes piled on top of each other like in the cartoon?Megatron vs. Iron Man

 

Look, we’re talking about transferring a story, a mythology from one medium to the other. No one wants to see the exact same thing on screen. We want an elevated, evolved version on screen. We want to see the mistakes corrected but more important than anything we want to see a movie that seems to respect the original property. We want to know that the filmmaker knows exactly what it is that was so bad ass about Transformers.

There was a special aesthetic to the boxier / rigid designs of the original Transformer designs. But thats not exactly what most fans would have wanted. They of course wanted an extreme amount of details but to have kept the general silhouette and shape of the characters. Sure there could be many parts but give them a similar mass to their original counterparts.Megatron before and After

3. Bumblebee. The reason Bumblebee is a Camaro is because VW refused to be associated with war. It wasn’t Bay’s decision.

Personally I am fine with Bumblebee being a Camaro but many people are not and this false rumor has been consistently spewed all over the internet. Fact is, it’s wrong. This was the case with a proposed Masterpiece Bumblebee toy (this one). Not the Transformers movie. Bay has even stated it was simply his choice to use a Camaro for Bumblebee. Another reason? GM got the deal to be providing the vehicles. So yes, this is a toy commercial AND a car commercial now.

There are two other reasons Bumblebee is not a VW bug:

1.Michael Bay had said that he did not want to make a movie about toys when he was approached about this film. He decided he would indeed like to make a movie about “A boy and his car” though. Part of the boy and his car story line revolves around the boy having an impressive vehicle worthy of wooing a female companion. And it was decided a VW Bug wouldn’t be the right vehicle for this boy and his car story.(proof link).

2.Last year a film was released called Herbie the love Bug. A Volkswagen with a mind of its own that communicates to its driver silently and by opening doors, changing the radio station etc. etc. It was decided Bumblebee would be too similar to Herbie in this form. (proof link)

The thing is Bumblebee was never mistaken for Herbie before so why would he now? He would now because in this movie Bumblebee is a mute, like Herbie and like Herbie Bumblebee can only communicate by opening doors, trunks, hoods, changing the radio, etc. etc. This was a choice made by the writers for the sole purpose of creating a special moment of silence between the human protagonist (Shia Labeauf) and Bumblebee when Bumblebee is first discovered by Sam.

So you see, Bumblebee’s true familiar underdog form of a VW has been indirectly cast aside in favor of rendering him incapable of speach unlike his Autobot comrades. Apparently Megatron ripped out his voice box back on Cybertron. Guess he couldn’t find any spare parts back on Cybertron to fix it? Doesn’t make sense to me either.

Megatron

Megatron is a ruthless general and a cunning warrior.

Prime

Optimus Prime, noone wanted a recreation of the toy, but something that acknowledged the solid / rigid style and silhouette of the character would have been nice and couldn’t have hurt the success of the film.

And now for a great Transformers comic book cover that was never released:

Prime and Elita 1 -Pencilled by Don Figuera and colored by Matt Moyner

 

 

 

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  2. An awesome movie, but maybe you are right… it’s a kids film to sell products including lunch boxes etc..

    Can’t believe i paid nearly £7 in the cinema… didn’t even get a megatron toy to take home!

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  3. muy bien los transformes son lo mejor

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  5. Wow, this pretty much echoed the sentiment I gave when I gave the movie poor reviews on my blog. Good writing!

    The writers and director had very little knowledge of the Transformers, and it showed in spades in the movie. There was no love of the source material, and reading their comments on the production displays their ignorance of the mythos.

    Stupid gags, little homage to the original series, and poor villains make this a crappy Transformers movie. To me it was simply a movie about alien robots, but it was not Transformers.

    I was very disappointed, and I am not planning to see the sequel.

  6. The movie had good points and a lot of bad ones. For one they turned the war between Autobots and Deceptions into a love story… and before anyone starts it I will acknowledge that the original show and the comic books Transformers did touched on the subject/topic of love it wasn’t the full story. In fact in the comics they went into detail about their culture and even enlisted arts, music, language and lets not forget fighting techniques and strategies (such as martial arts like Metallikato). Anyways love wasn’t the central plot for Transformers, and Hollywood tried to make it so through the human characters. BLAH! If I wanted to watch another mushy romantic movie I would go to one of them romantic comedy movies, not see it in a movie which was suppose to be about giant robots from space beat the tar out of each other. I also could careless about Megan Fox she is just there as eye candy for pathetic frustrated male audience. As for the way they looked I think it was the only way to make it feel as realistically as possible, but they still fail because there was every little Transformer action going on. People didn’t get to know them that well (the introduction of each character was brief and too simple). It was basically black and white, not allowing any shades of gray and color. The fighting scenes were too short and Megatrons’ death felt cheap and not at all like the real Megatron (all of his reincarnations had better death scenes). Megatron got jibbed. I hope he comes back and turns Sam and Mikaela into his sex slaves just to get my moneys worth in the next movie.

    One the positive notes are that some of the scenes were hilarious, yet made Micheal Bay into a pervert (I have conflicting thoughts whether this is positive or negative). Lets recount the movie….

    1.) When Frenzy was stealing important data from a computer it was as if he was orgasm.

    2.) Barricade body slams Sam on top of a parked car in such a way that reminded me of a scene from Urotsukidoji 2 (a hentai dealing with giant demons).

    3.) Frenzy striping Sams’ pants off.

    4.) Sams’ mother talking about masturbation.

    5.) Bumblebee giving an US agent a golden shower or oil shower (pick which ever you want).

    6.) Megatron asking Sam to give him the Allspark and he’ll consider to make the human his pet (read Marque De Sade and you’ll see why).

    7.) Using Megan Fox as nothing more than eye candy for sad little men. She had very few lines and terrible acting skills (she sucks), but people didn’t notice because they were too busy staring at her body and not her abilities as an actress (if anything she had turned back the clock on what qualifies to being a great actress). The chihuahua had better acting skills than she did. To tell you the truth I thought Megatron could have used her to bribe Sam into giving him the Allspark, but then again Hollywood made Megs into a retard. It didn’t bother me so much, due to the fact Micheal Bay treated everyone equality and treated everyone as eye candy and potential TF slaves, but Hollywood needs to know that the whole girl has to be hot and guy dorky is getting stale, though Mr. Bay noticed that and gotten Shia LaBouf to play as Sam, so in a way he is breaking that cycle.

    Other funny scenes included Megatron being disappointed with Starscream…once again (at least Hollywood wasn’t so stupid at that). When Optimus Prime threaten the government agents to let Sam go. When Megatron ripped that annoying Jazz into two pieces. Oh yes and when Megatron flicked a human away from him and said “Disgusting.” Frenzy was a comic relief through out.

    There were moments I hated and moments I liked. I would go see the sequel simply because Devastator is in it and Sam seeing Cybertronian scriptures in his mind(homage to the comics, who knows).


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